Tetsu: "I'd like to go somewhere to see the sun rise on New Year's Day... maybe Mt. Takao?"
Ishi: "Seeing the sun rise in an interesting location would be nice, but getting into packed trains in the cold, and then walking around in big crowds throughout the night, freezing the whole time, and then standing in a big crowd on a very crowded mountain isn't interesting at all. In fact, it's downright unpleasant and boring! How about taking something to drink (to celebrate) and just walking up a hill in a local park? That would be much more fun in total, since we'd not have to suffer all night in the cold and then suffer in the morning in a big crowd, and then suffer still more in crowded trains on the way home..."
Tetsu: "Oh, you're so boring and negative!"
Ishi: "No, I'm not! I'm being positive, practical, and realistic. You're suggesting suffering for a really stupid reason! It will be the very same sun that rises over the parks of Tokyo as the one that rises over the crowded and unpleasant 'popular spots' that you foolishly want to participate in for no better reason than it's a 'popular' thing!"
Tetsu: "All right, that's it! I'm not talking to you! You're too negative!"
Ishi: "OK - I don't feel much like talking to you right now either, but I'm not being negative! I'm being realistic! I suppose if we were on the Titanic on April 15th, 1912, and I said, 'Look! There's an iceberg! We should do something to avoid it!', you'd say 'There you go again! Always being negative!'. You know what Tetsu? In actual fact, you're 100 times more negative than I am! You bend over backwards to be unhappy and always look for someone with more money, a bigger apartment, etc. to compare with and be miserable!"
[Tetsu storms off, Ishi shakes head.]